Tuesday, May 5, 2009
The Roanoker Magazine Article on Countryside
Monday, November 10, 2008
BULL: A Puppet Musical and FiddleFest Lite Videos
Below is clip from FiddleFest Lite held at the Taubman Museum on Sunday, November 9th. It featured the Sandy Ridge group and Herschel Sizemore who teaches mandolin.
Sunday, October 19, 2008
Public Art eats small child!
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
City Attorney Explains FOIA To Council
Monday, September 15, 2008
Countryside Direction Finally Made Clear
Hank Bostwick's StarCityHarbinger is again misrepresenting the facts of the meeting: He states that: "A few citizens, including Roanoke Star-Sentinel’s Council reporter Valerie Garner, spoke in support of the golf-course-in-perpetuity motion and noted that decaying infrastructure at the golf club and course need immediate resources from the City coffers."
As a "surprise" guest at our neighborhood meeting on Monday, Sept. 8th, Mr. Rosen said "he had no problem with Countryside remaining an 18-hole golf course". Then when asked "in perpetuity" -. Mr. Rosen responded, "YES" looking me straight in the eye. This can be confirmed by Councilwoman Anita Price who was present as well as other neighbors. However, Mr. Rosen contradicted that statement at City Council tonight when he questioned the city attorney - referring to Mr. Lea's motion that Mr. Lea "meant the premise of the whole motion was to make Countryside a golf course in perpetuity and my understanding to that is no - I am just asking as a matter of law" (he was looking at the city attorney for a response). The City attorney explained (though I am sure Mr. Rosen already knew the answer) that the motion is NOT a contract. Then Mr. Rosen went on to say "I have a lot less issue with that."
Mr. Lea is right that something else is "cooking" behind the scenes but this blatant contradiction is a much too obvious "red flag."
This is what I said and is the exact text I read which I gave to the City Clerk:
It was on May 2, 2005, Council voted to take an option to purchase Countryside Golf Course. Here we are over three years later and time is of the essence with the lease ending Oct. 31st and with no RFP yet issued.
There is no reason to stall the process any longer and risk the shutdown and eventual decay of the golf course. Decay of city owned property is NOT fiscally responsible. This DELAY is not physically responsible…. stalling leads to suspicion.
We are intelligent citizens.
I will quote a member of Council’s own words in an email dated 9/22/05 obtained from a FOIA request - that said, "this process is being watched by a large number of people who are intelligent and can determine when they are being involved or left out … trust is a major factor here …let’s do what we have to do to keep that with our citizens." I have not forgotten those comforting words Mr. Lea and we are still watching and we are still intelligent.
Council had questions at the briefing on Countryside in regard to promotion of the golf course. If you initiate a “google” search of “Countryside Golf Course Roanoke” you will see that what comes up besides the airport hotels that tout it as an amenity for their guests. The results of the search displays the City’s website under Planning - Special Projects which says though stalled that the golf course is still slated for development and the RFP for development is still downloadable. It is no wonder that people say they think the course is closed. I ask Council to have this destructive promotion removed from the City’s website.
I ask Council to consider a ten year operating agreement as the minimum for the City to consider. To really recoup the City’s investment a 20 year lease would be a better. As Ms. Shuck stated at the airport commission meeting 20 years was OK with them as long as there was commitment by this council that the property would be used for golf course fairways. She also stated that golf course fairways was a preferred use by the FAA. Evidently the FAA considers golfers as expendable.
Again, I ask this Council to end this delay today and our anxiety and expediently instruct the City Administration to issue a RFP.
Monday, September 1, 2008
Countryside Banner Waves Again
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Countryside Petition Had 1,290 Signatures
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Another Update: Court Rosen Wants Countryside Sold
Sunday, August 17, 2008
Countryside Maintenance - Begging For Dollars
Rendering I Received with Request For Comment
Rendering attached to Monday's agenda.
Friday, August 15, 2008
Lobbying For Countryside Golf Club
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
What Came First...

What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?
Roanoke City Council met August 4 in an information session on Countryside at City Hall. The session began around 11:15 and lasted for about two hours. During that time the full council was briefed in depth by Brian Townsend before giving way to a question/answer time.
Much of Townsend’s briefing was geared to providing the new council members; Rosen, Price, Bowers, and Nash; and opportunity to become familiar with the history of the Countryside purchase and development plans by the City.
Much of the briefing centered on how the airport impacts the club. With a significant chunk of land leased to the city by the airport commission and with that lease due to expire in mid November, the city will need to renegotiate the lease for golf to continue. In addition, the airport commission wishes to widen the Runway Protection Zone (RPZ). To accomplish that goal, a land swap is being proposed that will swap two tracts on either side of
Part of the informational briefing centered on the current state of the golf facility. Townsend informed the council that Meadowbrook currently pays $17,500 for the lease to operate the course. The annual debt service for FY 2009 is just over $470,000. Meadowbrook reported $87,500 in profit in 2005, $79,800 in 2006, and $43,200 in 2007.
Townsend also covered the short-term capital improvement needs for Countryside:
Cart Paths:
-$25,000 for paving paths near tees and greens/returning rest to grass
Or
-$180,000 for full replacement
Irrigation System
-$100,000 for repairs
Or
-$700,000 for full replacement
Burcham and Townsend then presented their two basic recommendations:
1. Short Term Golf Course Agreements
-Extend limited lease agreements with a management group for five years
-Finalize Land swap and Lease Extensions
-Limited capital improvements
-Identify additional redevelopment ideas (may still develop at a later date)
2. “Golf Course Stewardship” Long Term Golf Commitment
-Finalize land swap and lease renewal with Airport Commission
-RFP operation and management lease
-Feasibility Study for golf operation
-Invest in the capital improvement plan
The discussion was focused and productive. Most council members stated their support for maintaining the golf course. The real debate seemed to be centered on the airport lease. Here comes the chicken and egg part. Dr. Trinkle and Mrs. Mason were especially focused on the upcoming possible lease extension by the airport commission. The question is will the airport commission extend the lease so that the city can then commit to golf or does the city need to commit to golf so that that airport commission will extend the lease? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Mr. Nash and Dr. Trinkle also broached the subject of a permanent commitment to golf. One thing that our organization hopes to avoid is another round of development roulette five years down the road when the housing market looks sunnier. We want a firm commitment to support fully Countryside Golf Course. One way to demonstrate that is by seeking a long-term lease with the airport commission. If the airport commission were to commit to a long-term lease (ten years or longer) where the city guaranteed that the land would remain a golf course, then the airport commission could be assured of having a low-density acceptable use of the property.
Mayor Bowers made several comments that cheered us. He stated that he didn’t want this process to drag out. He wants citizens to be heard in the matter and then a firm time window of no more than a year established to iron out the details of the city’s course of action. Of course, with both the Meadowbrook lease and airport commission lease all coming due in October/November, that time table will need to be pushed up even more.
Mayor Bowers also stated that Roanokers tell him that they are “…green with envy…” over
Court Rosen and Anita Price did a lot of listening, but Rosen did state that the city can make Countryside Golf Course are real amenity. He mentioned that thinking out of the box on how to utilize the assets of the course is important. He gave for example, the idea that memberships may be offered to employees to businesses that choose to locate in the city.
Anita Price quietly made the powerful point that the city and Meadowbrook need to be doing more to market and publicize the course. She pointed out that the visitor brochure produced by the Roanoke Valley Convention and Visitor’s Bureau does not list Countryside in the golf listings. Other public courses are listed, but not the city’s course. Several phone books serve the valley. Interestingly, if you want to look up Countryside in the yellow pages of the Verizon phone book (the largest and arguably most popular), you won’t find it listed at all. It does appear in the “Yellow Book” with an attractive quarter page ad.
Mr. Lea restated his long-standing support for the 18 hole golf course. Like the other council members, he stated a desire to meet with the airport commission.
Dr. Trinkle, in addition to his other comments, stated that he wants the city to commit to five to ten years of being good stewards of the golf course. He also wants to hear from the public about how the facility can benefit the community and schools.
Mrs. Burcham began to wind down the meeting by stressing that the staff would like to put forth an RFP for a 5-year lease to run the golf course facility. She stated that the council and staff would need to define expenses and responsibilities before entering into the lease agreement.
At that point, the discussion became a little murky and difficult to follow. We weren’t sure exactly what will be brought before the council in terms of RFP’s at future meetings. However, we believe that Council directed staff to bring an RFP proposal with at least a five year lease built in back to them. It also appeared that some council members directed the staff to negotiate with Meadowbrook for a long-term commitment; however, that negotiation may be handled through the RFP process. (The council members sat with their backs to the public and there were no microphones, so it was sometimes difficult to hear comments and read body language.)
Countryside Neighborhood Alliance had a strong showing with many of our friends present. In addition, representatives from the golf course attended.
The session produced news of an upcoming meeting with the airport commission to discuss several issues. Perhaps the lease extension and land swap will come up. This meeting will take place on September 2 at noon. We didn’t catch the location.
Overall, we were very pleased with the tone and seriousness of the discussions. The council members were civil to and respectful of the public and each other. They discussed, unrelated to Countryside, having a retreat at a local venue (most likely the city owned Apple Ridge Farm) to discuss issues and set goals and priorities. If the chickens can be hatched, Countryside Golf Course may have a bright future.
Sunday, August 3, 2008
City Council to Be Briefed Monday
~Alvin Nash quoted by Mason Adams in his Roanoke Times article August 3
The Roanoke Times ran a piece in the newspaper today. In his article Mason Adams raised three primary questions that may be batted around.
- Does the council want to take another shot at development or leave it for recreation?
- If the latter, then should it be used for athletic fields, passage for the Lick Run Greenway or maybe even an aquatic facility with swimming pools?
- And if the council does want to stick with the 18-hole golf course, then who manages it? Meadowbrook? The city? Or should it issue a request for proposals?
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Roanoke Times Countryside Article

This is my shot of the 10th tee.
Friday, July 25, 2008
Countryside Women Win Team Championship
Irrigating the 12th fairway
Saturday, July 5, 2008
July 4th Fireworks Video/Music
Thursday, June 19, 2008
Councilman Dave Trinkle's Website
"Consideration given to feasible usages for Countryside, including: potential for a high quality and well maintained municipal golf course with specific benefits given to city residents, location of other athletic sites including athletic fields, tennis (indoor and outdoor) and aquatics. Also to be studied is the viability of other greenspace uses, greenways and some compatible housing sites."
Saturday, June 14, 2008
Juneteenth 2008, Washington Park
Thanks to Ken and Rosanne Saunders for participating and helping hand out the candy and T-Shirts. Free food and good music was enjoyed by all. It was so very hot - we committed to buying a tent before next year!
Saturday, May 24, 2008
Local Colors May 2008 Video
The below video depicts the countries of Mexico, Greece, and India. You have to wait all the way to the end for the "hot" belly dancing!
Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Countryside Neighborhood Slide Show
Great pictures thanks to Susan Hall, enjoy!
Monday, May 5, 2008
Shine the Light on Them, Valerie!
I'm very proud that you are running on principle. Government MUST be of and by the People. No other candidate for City office can hold a candle to you. Win or lose, you are a champion, a bright light. Thank you for taking the time to run.

